Private bathroom. Charlie Witherow, OMC USN(Ret), Chairman H.L.A.V.A. Hi Paul,I was stationed with you in Holy Loch. I also enjoyed Dunoon, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Sterling, etc. Negotiations with the British Government began as early as March 1959 when President Dwight D. Eisenhower mentioned the need to British Prime Minister Harold Macmillan at a meeting at Camp David. Although there do not appear to be any other instances of Lazaretto being used in the UK, the name can be found on a number of similar locations around the world. Dated young girl there back in the late sixties. SE4-EP141. Below is a photo of me as a young man in "civies" on a Scottish street, circa 1974. Thanks for the info and the link to the history of Holy Loch. they are my sisters. Veterans Association of America, Inc. is an organization that provides legal assistance, housing, employment opportunities, business ownership, discharge upgrades, medical assistance, family outreach, and other pressing issues that stand as debilitating factors preventing veterans and their families from receiving the "quality care" deserved throughout mainstream society. The American Legion is the nation's largest wartime veterans service organization aimed at advocating patriotism across the U.S. through diverse programs and member benefits. The Americans brought their own services. One I hope to come back and visit someday! I have wonderful memories of the people and the place and have been back once. Jon Elkins, hi anon, I am trying to trace an American couple based there in 1969, they provisionally adopted 2 girls from Glasgow social works dept in 71 and promptly took them to America.would you know of any of the americans were doing this. The Holy Loch (Scottish Gaelic An Loch SiantaSeunta) is a Sea Loch, a part of the Cowal peninsula coast of the Firth of Clyde, in Argyll and Bute, Scotland. Dot. Following an approach to the British government, requesting permission to establish a refit site in the United Kingdom for Fleet Ballistic Missile (FBM) submarines, an agreement was negotiated which permitted the US to use the Holy Loch, on the Firth of Clyde, for the anchorage of a submarine tender, a large dry dock, and other supporting craft. google_ad_format = '120x60_as_rimg'; I believe it would have been about 1970. love the pictures and the article. This bar is a great choice if you are in the mood for British and Scottish cuisines. @yahoo.com E-mail me when people leave their comments - Follow You need to be a member of Navy Veterans to add comments! ending thirty one years of American presence in the Dunoon area. WINTERS BETTER THAN NEW ENGLAND. The Holy Loch American Veterans Association collected 300 towards the work, which was presented to the Sandbank Community Development Trust, to be used as part-payment of the 500 restoration cost associated with the lamp mounted on the stone pillar west of the main monument. His enthusiastic reception left him strongly of the opinion that we should seize every opportunity to show our appreciation of the massive United States effort in this part of the deterrent field. Its on my bucket list to return! I married a Scottish girl from Port Glasgow and we had two great children there. I continue to watch the 2 webcam sites of Dunoon. Holy Loch - US Navy US Navy Between 1961 and 1992, Holy Loch was the site of the United States Navy's FBM Refit Site One (FBM: Fleet Ballistic Missile). Your photos are great and thanks again for your post.D. Can you send photos of yourself and the tug to pauldavisoncrime@aol.com Thanks for writing. American children received their education in primary schools in Dunoon, Kirn, Sandbank and St Munns, then in Dunoon Grammar School when they were older. Naval Shipyard, Puget Sound, Bremerton, Washington Contract Award Date: 08/08/1962 Keel Laid: 01/07/1963 Sponsors: Mrs. H. Diamond & Mrs. Cecil Ford Launch Date: 02/08/1964 Commission Date: 11/07/1964 aboard the USS Proteus. Oliver North's Vietnam War lesson on the 35th anni My Crime Beat Column: Conspirata - Crime, Conspira Site One: A Look Back At The American Nuclear Subm Make Friends With Eddie Coyle By Reading George V. New Low for Mob: Former Goodfella Henry Hill Not S My On Crime & Security Column: Take Steps to Preve An Intimate Memoir Revealed On Mark Twain's Centenary. What great images. His work has also appeared in the Philadelphia Inquirer, the Philadelphia Daily News and other publications. All I have to say is what a beautiful place to be stationed and to this day its crazy on how much I still miss it . November 1, 1960 Harold Macmillan, the British Prime Minister, announced that there would be an American nuclear base on the Clyde. The loch looks very different without COMSUBRON 14 sitting out in the middle of it, and I couldn't identify any of the former Navy buildings that comprised the shore part of the base, other than the old Navy Housing units. Site 1 Holy Loch Reunion. Crews being sent here were given a handbook containing such gems as "Do not take your guns with you, the Brits do not like guns and you will need a licence for them". Many good memories from my Hunley time there 1986-1987 when we left. My father, CPO Clay Bailey set up the base services at the old Ardnadam Hotel in Sandbank in '61. The memorial sits on a relatively exposed point of land, which is subject to sea erosion, meaning that the monument is in danger of being lost if the site is note maintained. I think I have a mental photo of you. In January '82 the Holland was relieved by Hunley, returning for a 2nd tour. The World Health Organisation (WHO) traces the beginnings of quarantine to the 14th century: "A period of 40 days or 'quarantenaria' became established later as the usual period of isolation for sea-borne travellers and goods suspected of harbouring infectious diseases. According to local legend, the sand was to have been used for the construction of a local church. I loved my time in Scotland, aboard the USS Holland, 1975-1977. Delightful country!! Charles L. Witherow created the group Holy Loch American Veterans Association "HLAVA". google_ad_format = '120x600_as'; I am taking this opportunity of writing to you before we make any approach to the Palace.. We had our little spook shack on the back of the ship. We watched the "fish" cut through the water, just like they did in the movies. Holy Loch: The Scottish American Connection Kindle Edition by Frank L Gosselin (Author) Format: Kindle Edition 19 ratings See all formats and editions Kindle $5.99 Read with Our Free App Hardcover $40.54 1 Used from $44.80 11 New from $40.54 Jim,A cruise around the UK sounds interesting. google_ad_height = 600; Anselmo has passed on, but the fish and chips are still SO good! A crew of 500 men from Mobile Construction Battalion 4, the Seabees, spent the next five months to assembling the vessel, which became fully operational in November 1961. A third ship, the First Class Battleship Sans Pareil (the third of that name) was also sold to TW Ward, for 26,600. No, I don't remember the name of the base hospital. I'd like to take my wife on that kind of cruise and show her Scotland and the rest of the British Isles. ['mark', 'firstbyte', (new Date()).getTime()]]; The first two were moored in the Holy Loch, with the the third lying in the Kyles of Bute, near Rothesay. I enjoyed weekend nights in the hotel's bar. :), Jim,I too have fond memories of Scotland and the people. While many stayed in rented family. The Holy Loch is located on the central western coast of Scotland. As a Veterans association we are committed to, and stress the importance of upholding and defending the Constitution of the United States of America and the American Flag; and promoting understanding, appreciation and respect for the sacrifices and commitment given to the United States of America by the American Veteran, in general, and the . At beginning of the 20th century the Loch was home to some sections of the Reserve Fleet. Burial will take place at a later date at Arlington National Cemetery. AMVETS HI-0005, West Loch Post (EIN: 83-2332933) AMVETS HI-0006, Ewa Battlefield Post ; AMVETS HI-0007, Barbers Point Post IRS Tax Guide for Veterans' Organizations; American Years Revisited will arrive soon! I have been trying to track him down for some years, if anyone can help I would be very grateful, my name is jeannie. I was there when Proteus came in to the Loch. I nicked named Scotland land of the liquid sunshine. THE SHIP USS SIMON LAKE (AS 33) SUBMARINE TENDER Builder: U.S. Proteus' crew were reputedly hand picked to give the best possible impression of the US. accompanied me then, and on my subsequent assignment to the HOLLAND Commenting has been disabled thanks to the attention of scum known as spam commenters, Page last modified on Wednesday, 08 March 2017, at 12:20. (267) 341-3228. Find Submarine Refit Site One Holy Loch, Scotland unit information, patches, operation history, veteran photos and more on TogetherWeServed.com. In April 1907, The Argyllshire Standard reported that the Third Class Battleship HMS Conqueror (the seventh of that name) was sold for scrap to TW Ward of Sheffield for 16,800, and the First Class Cruiser HMS Undaunted was sold to Harris Bros of Bristol for 14,400. The Holy Loch American Veterans Association collected 300 towards the work, which was presented to the Sandbank Community Development Trust, to be used as part-payment of the 500 restoration cost associated with the lamp mounted on the stone pillar west of the main monument. The plot was largely based on the Iranian Embassy Siege of 1980, in which the SAS stormed the building to rescue the hostages being held there. Thanks for writing.Paul, Hello Paul I think you may have been there a little to early but Im trying to find the name of the ship that docked in 1989 around that time I lived at the holy loch I was a young girl back then and I can certainly tell you things are a lot different now the bace bowling ally are all gone everywhere is clear. Holy Family University's School Certifying Official is: Jean Dixon. By the standards of Scottish lochs this loch is small.Dimensions are one mile wide and two-three miles long (dependent on tidal conditions). I was a ping jocky aboard the USS Hartley, a destroyer escort. So i'm heading to Dunoon for a pint and fish & chips! tour] serving until March '92. This web site and its pages are licensed for personal, private, or non-commercial use only. var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0] '+e$$5.message)}catch(e$$6){}}; Distance: 3.3 mi. Thanks for writing about him. I served aboard The USS Sam Houston SSBN 609 and did 4 patrols out of Holy Loch (Simon Lake then the tender)1967-1969. He went on to do security work as a Defense Department civilian while working part-time as a freelance writer. UMAVA's Mission & Values, and Ongoing Projects. I was stationed on the NATIC in Nov of 67 so I may know your husband. YEAH, THAT WAS THE BEST FISH & CHIPS, WRAPPED IN NEWS PRINT. (YTB 780), a Navy harbor tugboat, in 1974 and 1975. The Navy is the asylum for the perverse, the home of the unfortunate. The accommodation is 5.4 miles from Benmore Botanic Garden, and guests benefit from private parking available on site and free WiFi. Kilmun Parish Church and. Donation and sponsorship inquiries: Donations@naavets.org What a bummer. Learn about our homelessness programs. google_ad_height = 60; I used to pass through Dunoon all the time taking the car ferry over from Gourock on the way to Tighnabruaich. Went into Glasgow. Submarine Squadron 14, headquartered aboard the serving submarine tender, arrived in the Holy Loch on 3 March 1961, I would not trade those times for anything. But this is probably untrue. The Dry Dock, USS Los Alamos (AFDB-7), was towed to Scotland in '61, and It will begin with check-in and an informal reception on Sunday, September 24 and end with a banquet dinner and business meeting on Wednesday evening, September 28 with hotel check out the following morning. Of all the places we lived, or visited growing up, Dunoon was the best and always say I am going to return. Anderson, Ric, CWO4, (1966-1996); Ashmore, Michael, PO1, (1973-1993); Barrett, Jeffrey, PO1, (1981-2002); Bauman, Frederic, PO2, (1965-1969); Beaumier, Armand, PO3 . The area was just absolutely stunning and the friends we were there with just absolutely loved it. Thanks! Five days On board HMS Exmouth which was based round the corner at Faslane, we co ordinated the operation to keep the berth clear. TheScottish winters are cold and rainy, butScotland isquite beautiful in the summer. Simon Lake was there. In 1992, the USS Simon Lake sailed down and out of the Firth of Clyde - the occupation was over. USS George C. Marshall (SSBN-654), a Benjamin Franklin-class ballistic missile submarine, was the only ship of the United States Navy to be named for General of the Army George C. Marshall (1880-1959), who served as U.S. Secretary of State from 1947 to 1949 and as U.S. Secretary of Defense from 1950 to 1951. served on board the Canopus AS34 from 73 to 75spent most of my entire duration taking care of the small boats and left my final duty as duty boat electrician IC3 Bishopif you went over to the beach via small boat, then you definitely passed by me. In May '70 the Simon Lake was relieved the USS Canopus (AS 34). Use tab to navigate through the menu items. My husband was on the uss bluefish that was home in new london ct with frequent trips to this port. in July '79. Dear Paul, I visited Dunoon Scotland in the summer of 1977. W e a r e M a r i n e R a i d e r s We are Marines first, and our MAGTF mindset, as well as our experience and training as expeditionary warfighters, sets us apart from all other special operations forces. In the autumn of 1959 the US You can read his full bio by clicking on the above photo. If you would like more information about the National Association of American Veterans, Inc. and the services we provide, please use the contact Form and Information below. US submarine refit facility Site One The submarines received supplies,maintenance andrepairs at the floating Navy base. In the early 1960s my husband was assigned to the USS Thomas Jefferson (SSBN 618). Others were Faslane, the channel between Largs and Cumbrae, Rosneath Bay, and Rothesay Bay. Paul, I served there on Hunley from when she first arrived and left her in late 63 for separation. From this the word 'quarantine' was derived.". Notable is the mention of the arrival of the depot ship USS Proteus, which had been converted to be the first Polaris submarine tender during 1959-61, and had required the insertion of a 44-foot section amidships, where the missiles would be serviced. I did not have any idea that Scotland is so beautiful. Our members include veterans, spouses, partners, widows and family members and number around 40. A fictionalised version of the operation was later told in the 1955 film The Cockleshell Heroes, with Trevor Howard, Anthony Newley and Jos Ferrer. Discus upcomming reunions that are Holy Loch wide and not specific to a command. . I will never forget the kindness that he and his family showed me in my time of need. Most of them had crumpled righthand front fenders (wings), the roads here were narrow, often single carriageway, and in an emergency the Americans pulled to the right with the inevitable consequence. I served on the drydock from 1966-1969. I do recognize your picture. It is a subsidy. i heard he made chief and became a tugmaster.Thanks for writing.Look forward to hearing from you. I traveled all over Scotland, the United Kingdom and Europe during those years. Hi there,Im a local to Dunoon,I live in Kirn,Just across the road from Dunoon Academy secondarily school,Your not missing much.The place has never recovered from the US Navy leaving,slowly declining each year.Woolworths closed about 5 years ago,& the tobacco shop across the road from Woolworths closed about 2 years ago,well the tobacco side of it,isnt there anymore,but the shop still sells the cool little trinkets etc(ie candy jars)The Calmac ferry service has even stopped to Dunoon. His work has also appeared in the Philadelphia Inquirer, the Philadelphia Daily News, Philadelphia Weekly and other publications. An average of 3,500-4,000 Americans were attached to the Holy Loch at any one time but that did not always mean a lot of money went into the local community. woman relaxing in nature. Paul. p.async = 'async'; We stand ready to provide a lifetime of support to veterans of all generations, their families and their survivors at no cost. The country and its people were truly awesome. Anonymous,You should be proud of your father.Please thank him for his service. You may add a comment or offer further details which may be included in the page above. In January '63 the Proteus was relieved by the USS Hunley (AS 31). Paul, I was stationed on the Saugus from Feb.85-Aug. 87, best 2 1/2 years of my life. Edinburgh has a statue of an ancestor of mine, Sir Wm Pitt. If you served in Submarine Refit Site One Holy Loch, Scotland, Join TWS for free to reconnect with service friends. Dennis, We were there at the same time. lepers; building or ship for performing quarantine in; after part of ship's hold used for stores.". Bloomfield, CT 06002. submarines being supported by the Squadron varied over the years, and the measure Short visit. I served aboard the Saugus 1966-67. Three days later, the detachment, with the exception of a 60-man rear echelon boarded the USNS GORDON, sailed from the Holy Loch and headed for home. USS Hunley (AS-31) Holy Loch 1981 RM 2CEF437 - One of the Royal Navy's seven Astute-class nuclear-powered attack submarine moves through the water at the entrance to Holy Loch and Loch Long near Kilcreggan, in Argyll and Bute. The selected men were trained on HMS Forth and in the surrounding area. Its 2,000 soldiers, with 150 american civilians and 2,000 dependents, have become a fixture in. Blue Dog, I'll have to check out "Launch Code. Dennis,Interesting. Scotland. I still keep in contact with one of those guys. Really loved the warmth of the Scottish People, really enjoy the Highland games as well! Paul Davis' crime fiction appears in American Crime Magazine. The Ministry of Defence hoped the high-profile visit would act as a demonstration of British gratitude for American military support and shore up the special relationship between the two countries. Had wonderful shipmates and made lots of civilian friends during my "liberty" timeRaquetball, softball, bowling, hiking, several pub-crawlslife was always interesting:) Thanks for the memories Paul.John WalshHenrico, VA, John,Thanks. google_cpa_choice = 'CAAQl6_zzwEaCNYAUlKOkBwoKPm093MwAA'; As a student of history, and being Scot-Welsh on my father's side, I enjoyed visiting the many historical sites in Scotland. Perhaps I too will at least get to see the area. Great memories! I had the honor of working three years over there in the late 80s and early 90s. My sister and I went to the "old grammar school" and we lived in a cottage on the corner of Clyde Street and the Alexandra Parade, on the grounds of the Dunmore Hotel. I only wished I hadn't Complained all the time and had been a better cook. Hey man. He wrote back, stating: The present time, with the Vietnam controversy heightened by the current Vietcong offensive and a consequent increase in criticism in Britain of American policies, hardly seems propitious for advising the Queen Mother to make a gesture of this kind. I have since lost touch but we'll always have the memories, Mark.Yes, we'll always have good memories of Holy Loch, Scotland.Thanks for writing.Paul. The name Lazaretto is probably derived from the parable of Lazarus, the sore-covered leper who became the patron saint of leprosy, being a combination of his name and Santa Maria di Nazareth, the church on the Venetian island where the first quarantine station was opened. The Holy Loch was a Royal Navy Submarine base during World War II Phone. He enlisted in the U.S. Navy when he was 17 in 1970. )Thanks for checking in.Paul. Stephen,Yes, Scotland was, and remains, I'm sure. Valued Relationships. be the site. Fun job. The Hunley was tender at this time. Don't wait to give a tax-deductible donation that helps our nation's heroes! Loved the pubs in Dunoon and the fish & chips. Jesse,Thanks for your service and thanks for writing.Paul. We arrived in '62 and lived in a lovely house on Cromlech Road called Benthead. Krieger (EN3), Richard,Glad you enjoyed the photos and a bit of memory of the old base.I recall that our tugboat was serviced by the drydock for a quick couple of days between submarines. Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License, Queen Mother kept from US nuclear base in Scotland - The Scotsman, Helensburgh set to swell under wave of 1.3bn Navy expansion - Helensburgh Advertiser), The British government and the American Polaris base in the Clyde, Journal for Maritime Reserch, 2001, Department of Defence Legacy Cold War Project, USS Daniel Boone SSBN-629 Refit 39, Holy Loch, Scotland, December 1978- January 1979, January 1963, the Proteus was relieved by the, August 1966, the Hunley was relieved by the, May 1970, the Simon Lake was relieved the. Orville Lee Gooden. This beautiful sea loch which is situated in the Argyll Forest Park has picturesque beaches, forest trails and also a stunning marina which makes for a brilliant starting point for boating excursions. Oh my. Always wanted to go back to visit to see who was still living there. Anonymous,I'd like to go back to Scotland as well one day.Thanks for writing,Paul. Speaking to my old Navy pal brought back some good memories. Steve Newstrom E Division USS Saratoga CVA-60. From 1991 to 2005 he was a producer and on-air host of "Inside Government," a public affairs interview radio program that aired Sundays on WPEN AM and WMGK FM in the Philadelphia area. I will always remember how polite the people were there and I miss being there at times. He has written extensively about organized crime, cybercrime, street crime, white collar crime, crime fiction, crime prevention, espionage and terrorism. Dot,I'm sorry to say that the Holy Loch submarine base, stationed in the middle of the loch, is gone. Thanks for maintaining this not so distant memory of Holy Loch. I know im clutching at straws, but I know my sisters are looking for me, we just keep missing each other.If anyone knows of any americans doing this please can u help me. Almost never ate in a restaurantthe pubs were where the locals & darts were. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator. They were training for Operation Frankton: a World War II British Combined Operations raid on shipping in Bordeaux harbour, France, in December 1942, carried out by twelve men using two-man Cockle MK II canoes. We followed the Leningrad from Murmansk to the Black Sea. on the Hunley AS31 in 1987, our bestman crossdecked to the Simon Lake and years later we ended up on the John.S.McCain in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, who do we run into walking down the street, but our bestman lol small world. While there we drove just a few miles up the road to Benmore Botanic Garden and discovered a whole new side of Scotland that I never knew about when I was there for the few weeks every 3 months as we turned over or took over the sub (USS Lewis & Clark SSBN 644 Blue). I miss my shipmates & friends at Site One, Dunoon, Glasgow, and Edinburgh. Loved being there. . Thanks for writing.Paul, Myself and a couple other members of our Holy Loch American Veterans Association living here in Scotland are working with other organisations toward establishing a permanent American Heritage Centre here in the Dunoon area. I'd like to go back to Scotland one day.Paul. MY name is Sonny Morrison, but I went by Spanky. Was able to procure the alarm bell out of the Marine Corps Guardshack which we used during security violations. Excited to return 50 years later. In 1942, a permanent base was established in Rothesay Bay, which remained until 1957. Terms & Conditions 2005-2023 SeScoThis work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International LicenseThis web site and its pages are licensed for personal, private, or non-commercial use only. 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