Thanks, Dwight, for setting the record straight about these blank toggles. 19-172 text caption. The initials MG represent machine gun and the number being (page 108) 10th Training Corps or (page 216) with the 10 denoting the team number. I own a u suffix luger with a blank toggle. Sind viele Uenderungen aus dem Gebiete des Staats=, Polizei= und Strafrechts eingetreten. 45aand Luger DWM 1906 Navy, 9mm, 2nd issue. Yes it DWM marked but without a chamber date. The 1928 Instruction for the Police of the State of Prussia, (V.f.d.P.) RIA has no less than 19 rare Krieghoff Lugers including commercial and Luftwaffe military contract guns. He should conscientiously fulfill his obligations, should be professional in his measures, be in touch with the public, but also act strictly against obvious violations, on the other hand avoid all incidents or even abuses by which the mood of a considerable part of the population is even more against those Police are involved when it is unfortunately already the case. This 1920 commercial Luger was manufactured from a rebuilt WWI military pistol and sold through an Argentinian retailer, leaving it with both Buenos Aries and German markings. 19-130 text caption Sturgess specifically states that the cleaning rod pouch of the pictured cut-back artillery to police holster, currently of the LOB collection, was modified to carry the police cleaning rod with added brass stopper, which is inaccurate as the police brass stop cleaning rod with a seven ring wooden handle cannot be inserted past the added, upper leather cleaning rod pouch section, securing cover flap brass stud as the bell-shaped, rather large 13 m/m diameter brass stopper, permanently affixed to the much smaller 5.5 m/m diameter of the steel cleaning rod, engages the protruding internal metal retaining lip of the added cleaning rod pouch brass stud. ad[2]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/JRBMbanner.jpg'; There is a Luftwaffe Eagle 2. wooden box sliding cover lid, which This is German WWI Naval crown m marked on the left receiver. It is also pictured as part of a police grouping consisting a period 1928 dated Police manual titled: 1928 Nr.7,1 Vorschrift fr die Waffenausbildung der Shutzpolizei or 1928 Nr.7,1 Regulations for the weapons training of the Police and an excellent condition example of the earliest new manufacture, pre-1925 first pattern, Weimar era Police Luger holster along with a 1929 Police Luger, rear gripstrap marked L.W.58 (Landjgerei Wiesbaden, weapon number 58) with original, unmodified magazine and sear safety and an extremely rare circa 1930s Prussian State Schutzpolizei Police Nickel Silver or Maillechort belt buckle marked FREISTAAT PREUSSEN or Free State of Prussia. $60. On the back, between the belt loops is a Nazi Eagle, short wingsAlmost Police looking but cannot be as it is a WaAThe # appears to be JL16. The police officer is therefore faced with the varied expenses. Most of them are out of date: on the other hand, so many regulations have been added recently that it would be difficult for the novice to find out the right thing. They appear to fall into two categories: P08s that always were P08s and P08s that were formerly unmarked Landjgerei LP08s (many 1918 DWM LP08s) that were reworked by the PTV in 1929-30 and reissued as P08s to the Landjgerei and other police. Abtlg. Hard to find historic variation. Feedback. Pictured is an example featured in Weimar Lugers by J Still, 1993, 12 - item 12 of the first centuria within command II in the The exact date or time frame of the second conversion is uncertain, which could have been in the late 1920s or early 1930s. Stay in the know. Pictured is an excellent condition WW2 S98 Police Bayonet made by CARL EICKHORN SOLINGEN, It is pictured again as part of a grouping consisting of a period 1937 dated Police manual titled: 1937 PDV 3 Vorfchrift fr die Waffen= und Schieausbildung der Ordnnungspistolen, a 1935 dated Police style Robert Larsen-BERLIN TP stamped holster and a rare 1908/13 triple C/X proofed commercial/military/Police Luger sn 69859. Furthermore, all books required for the use of the police schools in all areas of knowledge on the most favorable conditions are to be obtained from the assortment of the next edition. This rare leather S.K.g 715 holster by Otto Stuertz Allenstein is in excellent condition. It worked through various Note: Air surveillance departments controlled by the provincial Was it a difference in caliber or what is obvious that I am missing. In a typical attempt to demonstrate its political autonomy, the federal I'll leave it to Joop to fill in the details if he wishes, but the record indicates that substantial numbers of the 29DWM variation were completed and proofed in Berlin, but were "unfinished" (no bluing etc.) 4 days Left WW2 ERA GERMAN POLICE LUGER HOLSTER RIG $200. $500. The breech is stamped 1920 and the center toggle has DWM monogram on it. They sure set off a display real nice. The German purpose about HIPO was clear: To help Gestapo as a Danish helping-police. S.B.13.435 - Berlin unit 13 - Pistole s/n 9140e. var links=new Array() Although, common to both cut-back Artillery holsters featured herein, as originally made, was the inability to close the cleaning rod pouch/sleeve cover flap over a fully inserted Police cleaning rod without modifications, being the addition of a second, higher located brass stud on the subject example 1 unidentified maker cut-back Artillery to Police holster cleaning rod pouch/sleeve and the necessity of adding a section of leather, attached above the original cover flap location to the example 2, 1915 P. Braunleder Cln cut-back Artillery to Police holster cleaning rod pouch/sleeve cover flap. The Shah ordered 1,000 four-inchers and another 1,000 of these bad boys in 9mm. Luger Extractor Marks Luger Safety Marks Luger Magazine Marks Light sheet steel body with crimped edges. The lower underlined rear cover statement of both volumes translates to: Furthermore, all books required for the use of the police schools in all areas of knowledge on the most favorable conditions are to be obtained from the assortment of the next edition. Tim. Pictured is a WW1 P08 army holster modified to a Police holster in the 1920s or possibly early 1930s by removing the angled buckle and strap closure, converting to the police type closure by adding a pull-up strap to the holster body and adding a steel stud[4] and leather keeper strip to the cover flap. Borchardt-Luger - produced 1895-1896. This holster was used in the NAZI era as indicated by the holster body Eagle/Swastika stamp. Most of these went to the German Police. Pw.B. The only known publication that mentions the E/WaAJL16 stamping is found in World of Lugers, a.k.a. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 9 ----------------------------------------------------------. This was removed and the hilt was shortened accordingly. Polizei-Verwaltung Halle A/S.=Police Administration Halle A/S. The Publisher. links[6]='http://www.cashicollection.com'; Please help me with identifying those markings. Several Weimar Era Police pictures that show the box or rectangular shape belt buckles have been identified, yet veryfew examples of a Police Officer or group wearing a FREISTAAT Signed & Numbered by both authors. As to whether any police Lugers were used in caliber 7.65 mm is uncertain, however, one example pictured in Luger Variations by Harry Jones 1959, page 291 titled: 1920 POLICE WITH CHAMBER MARKINGS with the claim that during police service the Sear Safety Luger was chambered for the 7.65 m/m cartridge. Pictured is one such P08 police grip strap example, compared against variation 1 muzzle protector 2866, where no additional marks were added. He should work on the internal corsage, promote public security, order and tranquility and, above all, give every citizen the opportunity to fulfill his moral duty to exercise his intellectual and physical strength to the full. Per Luger collectors the E/Mg10 marking is rarely encountered. rear threaded section to be rotated clockwise until it is snug against the rear (communications training WaA-Army, Luftwaffe Eagle 2-Air Force. It is the Eagle/Mg10 stamping that requires explanation. Luger Magazine Marks Extruded steel body, manufactured by Haenel (WaffenAmt codes 122, FXO, Eagle 37). I figured out the other markings from earlier posts. The subject Police holster E/Mg10 stamping is recognized by collectors as authentic, based on three examples seen on WwMg/41 dated WW2 military issued P08 holsters. We talked to a subject matter expert who repairs WW1 / WW2 h the subject cut-back artillery LP.08 holster to P.08 holster police marked S.B. stands for. If you are looking for something similarly long, RIA has a Farsi-marked Persian contract Mauser Artillery Luger with an 8-inch barrel. 3 days Left MAUSER C96 RED 9 POLICE, SIMSON REWORK. feared that an expanded police force would become a ready reserve for the Prussian Police (Schutzpolizei), 1922. We got our hands on one of the original MCXs for some testing. with LANDESPOLIZEI [7] (State Police) FR WRTTEMBERG-HOHENZOLLERN[8] marked on the And when new information comes out, sometimes "old" information is shown to be wrong. Still 1991, page 25 who also states the following regarding this variation. Prussian Eagle adorned clam shell device under the grip. 1/11/23 - This is an original WW2 era production Luger magazine. In HIlfs-POlizei you found only Danes, enemies to their own countrymen. It is uncertain how long the holster remained in the pre-1928 first conversion, shortened LP.08 police pattern as the balance of the changes that constitute the second conversion are unique to this holster, starting with the removal of the up-strap, cover flap keeper and brass stud, plugging the cover flap stud anchor hole, and replacing the original artillery up-strap with a non-standard for a police holster, originally black paint/enamel coated metal belt buckle, keeper and strap cover flap closure. Example 2. A first glance through the new evidence that became available to me does not change my opinion as stated above. Pictured are multiple views of the four brass studs and their dimensions used with the subject holster. had its own police buckle. With the reorganization of the police carried out on 6 October 1920, the factual responsibility of the new police has been considerably expanded. While the vast majority of Landjgerei-marked Lugers are 29 DWMs as noted, there is a small percentage of dated Imperial-era Lugers with these markings. var ad=new Array() This was forbidden by the Treaty of 127; view 1, 11-17-2022 12:57 PM by Pistol. This Police holster definitely was used in two different locations or districts as indicated by the S. Hn. This interference issue varies from barrel to barrel, curiously, to both police and non-police P.08 9mm Lugers, depending on the width of the sight blade sliding base. arms of this police force were a source of comflict with the IMKK, who Please report any errors to me. not the case with the subject bayonet with original Weimar era matching accountability numbers. Chapter 4, p. 64 & Chapter 7, pp. The subject pictured, aftermarket LOB Mndungsschoner or muzzle protector, stamped on the flat with P08 and a stick wing Nazi proof is a different variation from the ERMA stamped muzzle protector pictured on page 174, Figure 28b of Third Reich Lugers. Caliber 7.62mm - 6.5" barrel. regulations issued in 1930, and are shown in the following table. The added belt loops are based on two other, more extensively converted artillery to police holsters discussed below. As you see - new evidence produces mostly new questions. Any aluminium based or black plastic based magazine (without serial number) would be correct for this gun. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated SCHAMBACH & Co. -BERLIN marked police holster with a Weimer era Sunburst K police inspection stamp; view 1. Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy. Additionally, by restricting the insertion of the cleaning rod end, with affixed Reinigungsgdocht[6] or cleaning wick flush to the chamber face, prevents it from becoming detached, which could happen with a longer cleaning rod extending beyond the barrel/receiver chamber face. All of this happened between 1912 and 1926. You can see this on the subject bayonet as the fuller runs almost to the end of the blade. 2. Wissen ist Macht, das gilt fr jeden, der im ffentlichen Leben steht und vorwrstsstrebt, besonders aber fr die Polizeibeamten, da ihn sein Beruf tglich und stundlich in engste Berhrung mit der Bevlterung bringt. $4,495.00 $4,045.00 Compare 1703 marked muzzle protector attached to a P.08 barrel, which is part of a 4mm sub caliber training assembly, which could also be used as a stand-alone muzzle protector in conjunction with the new police cleaning rod with brass stopper. 31. Thanks. the two-piece muzzle protector assembly over the barrel sight band/blade, then Sturgess in TBLAP also states that the new police cleaning rods were issued to each police pistol, further stating in the Fig. Knowing that, and having the history of the Thus, unit marks give one some history about the items on which Pictured are two 1933 Robert Larsen Police holsters with and without the E/Mg10 eagle and multiple views of the subject Police holster, being view 1, view 2, view 3 and view 4. Regimental markings on a 1916 P08 Luger - Arms and other weapons - The Great War (1914-1918) Forum. [11]. When the holster enters military service, it is inspected and proofed. If it is made after 1918it is a reproduction. These figure on the Mauser inventory listings of 09/30/1930 and 09/30/1930. 2 Policing Germany, including Police Unit Marks Chapt. indicating issue to the Railway Police in Halle. Genuine German Luger - Largest Variety of Lugers Offered. Edward Tinker - Co-Author of Police Lugers & Simson Lugers - Veteran Bring Backs Vol 1-4. -techn. A round buckle for Officers ranks and a box buckle for NCOs ranks utilizing the Freistaat Preuen eagle and are believed to have been introduced in 1921 and were utilized until 1936. The instruction manual is pictured and other interesting details are described in TBLAP, VIII, Chapter 19, Page 1297, Fig. The first pictured example of a multiple conversion of an artillery to police holster conversion was done to a 1918 dated Dingeldey & Werres-Berlin artillery holster. 1933-1945: Mauser Lugers. JavaScript is disabled. Tom answers that question and gives a detailed . ----------------------------------------------------------- page 10 ----------------------------------------------------------. Note that the first photo posted by Ron has the same missing corner. The first stamp of WwMg/41 may signify Waffenwerk Magdeburg. 413 or Landjgerei Gumbinnen; view 1 and view 2. I have several lugers and Broomhandles with the "HZaJt18" marking on them. Im Strasrecht haben ebensalls injngster Zeit z. L. erhebliche Umwlzungen stattgesunden. ad[1]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/Cash1.jpg'; According to the Standard Catalog of Luger by Davis the meaning of this marking is unknown. Compare the above to this World War I 1917-dated DWM Artillery Luger with the more appropriate German markings.. the folded-over or closed holster body toe of the pictured 1924 example that twin belt loops were added to the holster rear. J. Pictured is a similar aftermarket P08 and police stick-wing acceptance stamped muzzle protector disassembled. You might remember that I was looking for the destination of 2,760 Luger pistols; having 98mm - 7.65mm barrels that came from Berlin to Oberndorf. The lower of the two (brass) studs is not an original German stud. The 662V serial number described in the text caption was substituted with 873V. The ERMA variation 2 unit also uses a It is assumed that at the time of the conversion the holster was still brown. Open Fullscreen Lot 3320: DWM Blank Chamber Police Luger Rig with Prussian Unit Markings Mauser Blank Chamber 1933 Police Sneak Luger Semi-Automatic Pistol Rig with Unit Markings, 1933 Dated Police Holster, and Extra Magazine Auction Date: December 11, 2022 Estimated Price: $ 2,000 - $ 3,000 Price Realized: Details Payment Terms Shipping The Police holster rear is stamped with the P.08 pistol issue number or serial number 1021. 05-24-2021 12:04 AM by Neil Young. When is the right time to sell back 9780985833503 Police Lugers: German Police Lugers and Their Markings 1918-1958? 4 days Left 18th Century Wooden Box with Brass Handle. The thumb safety is marked "Gesichert" and when exposed (1096) NOTE: Photographs taken today SOLD - 1921 DWM Luger - Police Rework $1,950.00 Availability: Out of stock SKU 89661 - 15966 Next/Previous Description 6/4/21 - This is a nice example of a rare 1921-dated DWM Luger. German Small Arms Markings From Authentic Sources by J. is unknown. It is fortunate that both books stayed together since 1921 and were acquired as a set, both signed by the original owner. Der Mangel an einschlgigen Fachbchern ift oft betlagt worden. 13. An examination of the P. Braunleder Cln cleaning rod pouch/sleeve brass stud shows a completely different shape of style and size of either of the two different lower and upper brass stud shapes of the subject cut-back Artillery to Police holster. Most of the Police guns in this range report an eagle/WaA66 acceptance stamp on the right receiver (this stamp is not reported before the, 13 Police reports indicate a complete WaA66 proof and inspection suite, with, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The E/Mg10 is thought to be the inspector stamp or proof marking used at this depot. Also, recently in Strafrecht (Criminal Law) z. L. significant upheavals took place. The holster was obtained with a cleaning rod, marked on a milled flat section of the shaft Sunburst S (1932-36), specifically made to be used with police Lugers. included provisions for two spare magazines, cleaning rod, box of period ammunition and a loading tool. "The Flag does not fly because of the wind that blows it. Opening the loading tool cover flap reveals the original brown leather. Featured is a WW2 police style holster marked WaAJL16 on the rear between the bell loops along with a 4-digit 1108 believed to be a Police P.08 serial number. 1935 and 1936 are the only known manufacturing dates for the TP or Technische Polizeischule property marked holsters. Additionally, since the subject holster body attached cleaning rod, cut-back from the original, approximately 230 m/m length to 180 m/m length (or 210 m/m total with the added 30 m/m section) leather pouch/sleeve is original to the holster body, as attested by the original stitching. August Weiss states further that the 'Riff' lot was produced by DWM late 1927 - early 1928. S&W Walther PPK/s Review: Obsolete or Concealed Carry Gem? ad[7]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/Marna.jpg'; WaAJL16. Pictured is a German manufactured commercial holster, original pistol model unknown, converted to accept a P.08 Luger pistol by modifying the holster body entrance. The fourth is a very early 3-digit, circa 1930 production DWM/Mauser commercial/Police Luger serial number 873V. IV. and discussed in The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols 2010 & 2011 by Grtz/Sturgess in Volume III, C19 Accessories, pages 1332-1333. it was made without a loading tool pouch under the cover flap and the cover flap lacks a keeper for the holster body attached closing strap. Additionally perplexing and unclear is the reason or purpose for a stand-alone E/Mg10 Nazi Swastika stamping on a 1933 dated Robert Larsen Weimar era Police holster. Sturgess collection, currently, as of this writing, being offered by a noted dealer for an equally extremely rare four-digit price. If the blank toggles are related to the Riff contract, they would have been manufactured in or before 1926. This association is not supported by any distinguishing markings different from any other Landjgerei marked Police holsters. 2. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Click here for translation of first page of volume II. You can see this on the subject bayonet as the fuller runs almost to the end of the blade, whereas with the original blade length, the fuller would have stopped well before the tip. A community dedicated to Lugers, Central Powers, Axis, Allied and related WW-I and WW-II pistols by their scholars, collectors, owners and enthusiasts. WaA107 Auwrter & Bubeck, Stuttgart 1934, no example noted. 355. Founded in 1999. He should conscientiously fulfill his obligations, should be professional in his measures, be in touch with the public, but also act strictly against obvious violations, on the other hand avoid all incidents or even abuses by which the mood of a considerable part of the population is even more against those Police are involved when it is unfortunately already the case. Description. The Germans used the letter "J" instead of "I" quite often to avoid confusion with the number "1." Still, however, somewhat refutes his prior reportedly statements, five years later in Weimar Lugers 1993 on page 181, Figure 47a text caption where he dismisses the (carry) use of the police cleaning rods with cut-back artillery Luger holsters where he states that: These (police cleaning) rods probably remained in Army or police stations as the brass stop prevents them for fitting in holsters. As a result, the young police officers are faced with new tasks, which prove to be all the more difficult since the new police not only ward off the risks of political and economic struggles, but above all are supposed to be brought back to their actual previous activities. Pictured is one such example with pattern likely dating from the Weimar period, identified as a German fire defense police belt buckle with a beautiful design emblem with the following inscription of: God to Honor ~ Neighbor to Defend. Diese Frwgungen mssen die Grundlage fr die Uusbildung des Polizeibeamten bilden. WaA107 Hans Rmer Neu-Ulm, Donau 1936. Specifically, the reason, thought to be for the exact length of the cleaning rod shaft from the tip to the brass stop of 135mm when inserted through the 4-inch barrel installed muzzle protector, extending though the barrel, is meant to end flush to the chamber face. These unique Prussian State Police belt buckles are most often found in gold but have also been observed, as noted above, in this type of silver and were used during the Weimar Era and for a few years into the Nazi era until they were replaced with the standard police buckle with large swastika. It is interesting to note however that no pistols having a blank toggle and the 'v' suffix have been reported so far. links[2]='http://www.johnsonreferencebooks.com'; If instead of replacing and/or adding a brass stud, the leather worker, when raising the height of the cleaning rod pouch sleeve by adding a piece of leather, at the time simply removed or did not add the lower brass stud, extending the longer section, lower leather piece to where it covered the existing brass stud location. Due to the different design of the variation 1 muzzle protector this particular interference issue is not encountered. Pictured is an exceptional example of one such Police officer private purchase, unmarked and unmodified Weimar era Police clamshell dress bayonet. Different from any other Landjgerei marked Police holsters discussed below the `` HZaJt18 '' marking on them noted... So far amp ; Chapter 7, pp sturgess collection, currently, as of this Police holster was... 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